Shaun Hill asks DC bar to not serve his beer

I can understand why a brewer would get mad at bad ratings; the beer being his "baby" and such, but I’d also think that you’d learn to cope with what people are saying about you on rating sites, which are nothing more than a collection of subjective opinions (which is even the majority sway here).

There isn’t a single beer in this site that is universally loved; virtually every beer will get some "stinker" ratings. Over a long enough time line, no beer is immune. All in all, HF seems to have done well here, despite the presence of folks who will rate it and "don’t get it." I can’t imagine that it’s much different on whatever other beer sites exist out there.

All opinions are subjective. As long as the rater or poster is being honest, who cares either way? If you can not take criticism, brewing at a high profile brewery isn’t a good idea.

Originally posted by puzzl
I fucking love Alesmith. But am I buying it? Do any beer geeks I know buy it? No.

Originally posted by puzzl
I see a brewery that was once at the forefront of the microbrewing revolution, that has now felt comfortable taking a back seat, sitting on their proven beers, and for the most part not doing anything to advance their business model.

Originally posted by puzzl
Again, awesome beer, and a business model that is totally fine, but perhaps not the ideal for someone like Shaun who clearly wants to continue pushing boundaries and making smash hit after smash hit with no end in sight.

Wow, I hadn’t kept up with this thread, certainly is a hot one.
it is odd, to me, that a bar had an event, with out brewer support, and was pouring from growlers. Plenty of bars have events, with kegs, but I don’t recall a growler event, does this happen much?

Originally posted by FrumptyDumpty
If you are going to criticize how it is made and offer up suggestions on how to improve it then you should actually know what you are talking about.

Originally posted by hopscotch
Dude, welcome back, but stop being a homer here.

Also, don’t disagree with me publicly because, well... I don’t have money, but what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

Originally posted by OldGrowth
Wow, I hadn’t kept up with this thread, certainly is a hot one.
it is odd, to me, that a bar had an event, with out brewer support, and was pouring from growlers. Plenty of bars have events, with kegs, but I don’t recall a growler event, does this happen much?

Originally posted by ClarkVV

Originally posted by hopscotch
Dude, welcome back, but stop being a homer here.

Also, don’t disagree with me publicly because, well... I don’t have money, but what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

Sorry, I was certainly not trying to flaunt brewing knowledge or say that it is a requisite or make a personal attack there. Though my tone was too harsh, my apologies. I do agree, if you’ve had a lot of beers, you know what you like and you know when something is lacking. That being said, it dosent hurt to have some knowledge of the brewing process. It can greatly affect the way you appreciate a beer.

As for the second paragraph, I’m not sure what you mean! I never said anything about money and I don’t know what nightmare you’re referring to or what a "people like me" is.

I have to take SH’s side here. I think his words and actions have become twisted. He was not immaturely lashing out at poor ratings of his beers, although he is known to have done that in the past. He preemptively asked a bar owner not to pour his beers at an event where they would likely not be in a servable condition, in his expert opinion. There was a back and forth between he and the owner, but he remained civil. I don’t fault him too much for the "vaulted halo" remark. We have all said goofed up things when we’re upset; the interviewer must have struck a nerve. SH did not threaten litigation. He openly acknowledges the fact that he has no legal recourse in this matter. All he did was what I would hope any concerned brewer would and should do.

In defense of the bar owner, he was stuck in a dilemma and tried to rectify the situation as best he could. He didn’t find out about SH’s objections until he had the beer and tickets were sold. He was only trying to satisfy his customer’s demands. Offering to pour the beer only after trying it and verifying that it was in good condition was a reasonable solution. He was not obligated to do this.

FWIW, pouring from growlers at a ticketed event is just tacky and does a disservice to beer. Can we all just agree not to do it?

Originally posted by OldGrowth

Originally posted by ClarkVV

Originally posted by hopscotch
Dude, welcome back, but stop being a homer here.

Also, don’t disagree with me publicly because, well... I don’t have money, but what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

Sorry, I was certainly not trying to flaunt brewing knowledge or say that it is a requisite or make a personal attack there. Though my tone was too harsh, my apologies. I do agree, if you’ve had a lot of beers, you know what you like and you know when something is lacking. That being said, it dosent hurt to have some knowledge of the brewing process. It can greatly affect the way you appreciate a beer.

As for the second paragraph, I’m not sure what you mean! I never said anything about money and I don’t know what nightmare you’re referring to or what a "people like me" is.

I assume he was being humorous
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