RateBeer Investment Announcement!

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jtclockwork
beers 16725 º places 511 º 00:14 Wed 6/7/2017

Originally posted by borre_m
https://www.dogfish.com/blog/message-sam-current-ratebeer-changes

This changes things a bit...
Thatís been posted in a few different threads and even has itís own thread. Doesnít really change anything. Ratebeer doesnít have to delete anything. And the site would be foolish if it did.

 
Tim Webb
beers 449 º places 505 º 08:04 Wed 6/7/2017

Anyone who thinks that an AB InBev disrupter agency will put money into the largest independent beer consumer website in the world for reasons of beery camaraderie is not yet old or wise enough to understand how the world works.

It wonít be for the money - they have way too much of that already. It might be in order to get access to more information about how the thing works or conceivably to get greater access to something or other. It may become clearer eventually.

Or it might simply be in order to undermine RBís reputation for independence. In which case, good job guys, itís working so far!

 
herrklemann
beers 307 º places 19 º 16:10 Wed 6/7/2017

Concerning the announcement: Iíve read through quite a few threads on this, and for the sake of not further pissing anyone off, Iíll steer clear from saying anything on the matter.

But I need to get something off my chest: Iím very disappointed on how this has been handled. It was obvious from the start that this would be controversial. You even knew it would be leaked some time. But you chose not to say anything about it before you had to. From what I understand, this was to make sure RBB runs smoothly and "Because thatís how itís done."
Now the damage is done. With honest communication from the start, much could have been averted.

 
jbruner
beers 4861 º places 268 º 21:53 Wed 6/7/2017

Personal opinions:

This deal doesnít matter to what percentage was given as a minority. If you are in the camp of not giving money to AB-InBev then donít repurchase your premium membership. I just realized mine is no longer active and I doubt I will re-up, to the simple fact that my original intent was to give some money to one guy running this show solo; this is no longer the case and they donít need my donation to function.

There does seem to be quite a few people coming out of nowhere, joining after this acquisition announcement just to come on the forums and incite some mess. It is disheartening, but if they stick around, who actually wins in this situation?

I have had a lot of friends in the beer industry ask me my opinion because I am rather active on this site since I joined, and I feel my membership will stay here rather than the pretentiousness of BA, or the silliness of UnTappd. I hope no real changes are made to the way the site is run. And I feel like if the ratings of AB products all of sudden started going up, enough people would notice.

Breweries requesting to take their ratings off here is absurd grandstanding at best. None of us are journalists and those rules do no apply; at best we are doing this as a hobby, and some of us are in the industry in some factions as well. The amount of time and effort I have put into my ratings may make my decision here biased, but I do not think a brewery has the right to pull their entries from a public forum just because of ownership; it would be like someone having their movie pulled rom IMDB because Amazon owns it, ridiculous. And Samís B.S. about getting free stuff and AB products getting better reviews is laughable. Every beer journalist I know gets treated like king any brewery they go to, with free beer at least, most of the time private tours, tastings, and swag if they want.

Cheers, Joe

I think you made the right decision for your life. I just wish you hadnít waited so long to tell us.

P.S.
Everyone knows the GoodBeerHunting is a Goose Island lackey, and his company is also partially owned by AB-InBev as well, right? Thus his snooping leading to this info before it was public.

 
suprchunk
beers 2994 º places 144 º 08:28 Thu 6/8/2017

Originally posted by Homer321
Originally posted by medhurstandsons
I feel so welcome. Itís a simple question. Back under your rock.

I donít think you know who youíre talking to, sun.


He probably knows he is talking to Adam Jackson; current face-stuffer of cheese, "former" beer seller on eBay, and all around "good" dude.

 
suprchunk
beers 2994 º places 144 º 08:32 Thu 6/8/2017

Originally posted by jbruner
I just wish you hadnít waited so long to tell us.


This. Why wait almost a year to let everyone on here know about this? I see my premium didnít auto-renew like it should have, but lucky for me...

This is as shady as shady gets; letting people keep giving money and time to a site they may not have if the truth was known. I think the backlash is what kept Joe quiet, but this stinks all the more than just coming clean when you should have.

 
Bov
beers 12888 º places 135 º 08:41 Thu 6/8/2017

Originally posted by Tim Webb
Anyone who thinks that an AB InBev disrupter agency will put money into the largest independent beer consumer website in the world for reasons of beery camaraderie is not yet old or wise enough to understand how the world works.

It wonít be for the money - they have way too much of that already. It might be in order to get access to more information about how the thing works or conceivably to get greater access to something or other. It may become clearer eventually.

Or it might simply be in order to undermine RBís reputation for independence. In which case, good job guys, itís working so far!


Be sure that (almost) no one here believe in the "beery camaraderie" reason. I donít believe in the access to more information. It remains the only thing which we all can see happening now: your last point.

 
HornyDevil
08:57 Thu 6/8/2017

Originally posted by Bov
Originally posted by Tim Webb
Anyone who thinks that an AB InBev disrupter agency will put money into the largest independent beer consumer website in the world for reasons of beery camaraderie is not yet old or wise enough to understand how the world works.

It wonít be for the money - they have way too much of that already. It might be in order to get access to more information about how the thing works or conceivably to get greater access to something or other. It may become clearer eventually.

Or it might simply be in order to undermine RBís reputation for independence. In which case, good job guys, itís working so far!


Be sure that (almost) no one here believe in the "beery camaraderie" reason. I donít believe in the access to more information. It remains the only thing which we all can see happening now: your last point.


Undermining RBís reputation is a terrible motive to invest in it. Believing ridiculous things like this is an issue, because it takes away from the actual motive of the investment.

 
SinH4
beers 4974 º places 178 º 09:03 Thu 6/8/2017

Well, the information access must have played a part. But I just canít stop thinking that ABI really would have needed to live in a dream world if they didnít know that Wicked Weed is a good purchase without analyzing Ratebeer stats.

 
johnarktor
beers 139 º places 4 º 09:20 Thu 6/8/2017

Originally posted by Ibrew2or3
And where is it in Joeís post that tells us any money paid to ratebeer goes to ABI?

It is how owning shares in any publicly owned company works. You get a percentage of the companyís revenue, proportional to what percentage of it you own. Plain and simple.

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